tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post820274159874998415..comments2024-02-01T04:44:52.005-08:00Comments on My Antique Pens: Sheaffer Student Cartridge PenHarvey Levinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-17848015376197193402024-01-24T09:48:23.684-08:002024-01-24T09:48:23.684-08:00I had hoped to find a Wikipedia article on the She...I had hoped to find a Wikipedia article on the Sheaffer School Cartridge pen. I was particularly interested in the start/stop dates of manufacture. My impression was that the cigar-ended barrels were from the 60's and they were replaced by the round/conical ends in the 70's. I was a grade school kid in the early 60's and LOVED watching peacock blue feather out in the cheap paper we had at school while "listening" to the teacher. BTW, what current ink approximates the wonderful color of peacock blue? How close is Robert Oster's Fire and Ice? I syringed my cartridges through college in the 70's. Why did I ever lose track of my pen box??!! A rediscovery of fountain pens a couple of years ago has been a delight. (recommend M2 by Majohn.) I found a place selling "old new stock" XF nibs for SSCP's on ebay. I do a lot of small/fine printing, so I have high hopes.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09938674825643326689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-46398191701468780022022-06-04T15:33:19.241-07:002022-06-04T15:33:19.241-07:00I read the above article and I got some knowledge ...I read the above article and I got some knowledge from your article. It's actually great and useful data for us. Thanks for share it.<a href="https://www.maxema.us/" rel="nofollow">Buy Personalized Logo Pens In Bulk</a>maxemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04775700855689901130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-70694401203615122672021-09-02T00:28:58.593-07:002021-09-02T00:28:58.593-07:00I'm sure you had great knowledge about this. Y... I'm sure you had great knowledge about this. You gave us much information. This information is really good and commendable. Thanks for sharing your things with us. <a href="https://www.promotionalpens.com.au/" rel="nofollow">personalised pens</a>Promotional Penshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14450817074595722995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-46496208561900369682020-10-02T15:37:22.410-07:002020-10-02T15:37:22.410-07:00I'm glad to see a post on thesepens. I remembe...I'm glad to see a post on thesepens. I remember buying a new Sheaffer student pen and cartridges at the local office supply store around 1987 when I was in grade school. I still have it and it still works. Fountain pens never really went away and have been around in some form even after ballpoints etc...become mainstream. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130533344071806203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-82800670578710636122020-08-25T07:41:01.143-07:002020-08-25T07:41:01.143-07:00Madrid,
Thanks for your comment. I agree that thi...Madrid,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. I agree that this is an unusual variant of the standard Sheaffer cartridge pen. I find it interesting that the pen has a loop on the cap for attaching a ribbon or piece of heavy string so that it can be worn around the neck. During the early fountain pen days, say up until the 1930s, pen manufacturers made this style of pen for women.<br /><br />You are right that school pens were never intended to be used with converters; they were only supposed to be used with cartridges. I think there are two ways to use bottled ink with these pens even though a converter won't work. One way is to convert the pen to an eyedropper pen. This is exactly what I did with the pen in the photos. Just fill the barrel with ink using an eyedropper. Next, spread a layer of silicone grease on the threads and screw in the section. The grease should keep the ink from leaking around the joint. The amount of ink in the pen barrel should be many times that found in a cartridge. Another way to use bottled ink with the pen is to use a syringe to suck ink from a bottle and then carefully inject the ink into a used cartridge. Carefully attach the section to the cartridge and then screw in the barrel. While this doesn't avoid using a cartridge, at least you don't have to suffer the high price and limited ink colors that are your only option if you stick to buying new cartridges.<br /><br />I'm also a fan of the Esterbrook dollar pens and their interchangeable nibs. If you haven't seen my post on that subject it can be found at this link: http://www.myantiquepens.com/2014/07/esterbrook-dollar-pen.html<br /><br />I hope your Sheaffer pen and Esterbrook nibs give you years of writing pleasure!Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-71347260232460259492020-08-21T22:41:30.543-07:002020-08-21T22:41:30.543-07:00I *think* what I have here is a "School"...I *think* what I have here is a "School" pen, but it's not like the ones in the pictures. It's flat on the top and bottom, and the whole thing is metal. Or pretty much. The section and the feed are black plastic. Whole thing's forest green. A magnet will not stick to the barrel or cap, but it clamps onto the Shaeffer clip very firmly.<br /><br />I have no cloo when it was made; I got it off eBay. They didn't know. And I didn't even want the pen. It was in a "lot" with 5 Esterbrook nibs—*those* are what I was gunning for. But then today I ink up the pen and I'm like: "HEY!" It's got the usual medium nib on there (this IS like in the pictures), and it's a wonderful gusher. I wouldn't mind having a couple more of these guys...<br /><br />So anyhow here's the question. I redd the School pens were never intended to be used with converters. I don't know if that's true for the ones you used during the Eisenhower years, but I can see it might be true for this "slim line" model. I have a *pile* of converters here, and not one of ’em fits. There are ones that will attach to the nipple thingy, but then they're either too fat to go into the barrel—or too long. I have one that ALMOST works....... <br /><br />Anyhow my Q to you is: Given your experience and your wisdom and all the rest of it, do you think there's some way I can defeat the cartridge-only syndrome?madridhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10086685590193289217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-91688497600068548662020-05-30T08:51:40.854-07:002020-05-30T08:51:40.854-07:00I see that I inadvertently typed "Pan" r...I see that I inadvertently typed "Pan" rather than "Pen". Oh well…Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-37993855410195204302020-05-30T08:46:39.730-07:002020-05-30T08:46:39.730-07:00Nicole,
Thanks for your comments on this post and...Nicole,<br /><br />Thanks for your comments on this post and your experience with the Sheaffer Student Cartridge Pen. I'm glad that the pen is working out great for you. When I was in High School (in the late 1950's!) I discovered the Cartridge Pen and used two of them (one with blue or black ink and the other with red ink) every day. I carried extra cartridges to make sure I didn't run out of ink during a test or while taking notes. I used these pens in college as well, although I eventually moved to fancier pens. Nevertheless, I rarely owned a pen that wrote better than the cartridge pens!<br /><br />To keep your pen writing well, you might want to periodically (perhaps every few months) clean out the pen, especially when you change ink colors. An efficient way to do this is to use the converter to suck up plain, cool water through the nib and then expel the water. Repeating this several times will remove impurities and paper fibers that might adhere to the nib and its ink channel. Dry the nib unit with a paper towel or a lint-free cloth. Then you are ready to refill your pen with fresh ink.<br /><br />I'm glad you enjoyed reading my post on the Sheaffer Student Cartridge Pan!<br /><br />HarveyHarvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-16284780588304840772020-05-29T19:41:32.781-07:002020-05-29T19:41:32.781-07:00I found one of these (clear barrel, rounded ends) ...I found one of these (clear barrel, rounded ends) in the vintage selection at a local stationery store; I think they sold it to me for $8. It is my WORKHORSE. Smoothest, most pleasant writer in my collection at any price point.<br /><br />I use two screw-type converters with it that the same stationery store had at the time, which they referred to as Waterman Universals. Turns out it was a miracle that they dit. I've never been able to find one that does since. But I keep both of those converters filled, one in the Sheaffer and one in a cheap and terrible pen that doesn't write but stores filled converters just fine, and swap them out often. (That's why I haven't done the eyedropper thing yet; I like changing colors too often for that.)<br /><br />Thanks for all the info on this great pen!Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Littlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881440862384880232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-16985535494632208422020-02-23T08:52:04.433-08:002020-02-23T08:52:04.433-08:00"Unknown", Thanks for the information on..."Unknown", Thanks for the information on when the Student Cartridge Pen when out of production and was no longer available. That information adds to the history of that model. Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-22590145206225139892020-02-19T13:10:01.826-08:002020-02-19T13:10:01.826-08:00To be more exact, the pen disappeared from pharmac...To be more exact, the pen disappeared from pharmacy stores like Walgreens and Woolworth in the early 70’s and suddenly reappeared in the 1980’s until the early 1980’s when they were replaced by the all chrome version in major grocery stores. In the mid nineties one could still find the transparent versions but sporadically. I called Sheaffer later on who confirmed the discontinuation of the transparent and all chrome versions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00827315048359419646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-37610048971187629512019-10-03T07:03:20.972-07:002019-10-03T07:03:20.972-07:00Hmmm, didn't know that, very interesting.Its g...Hmmm, didn't know that, very interesting.Its great to find something new every day. 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Gotta say, I miss having &quo...Thank you very much! Gotta say, I miss having "peacock blue" fingers from time to time.Gretchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10561366091028513460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-88739308129703579172019-05-16T05:43:38.290-07:002019-05-16T05:43:38.290-07:00Gretchen,
Yes, you have my permission to use the ...Gretchen,<br /><br />Yes, you have my permission to use the photos from this website as you requested. It sounds like you enjoyed using these pens as much as I did during the time they were made. I also understand your interest in gel pens since they are the closest thing to a fountain pen in the ballpoint world.<br /><br />HarveyHarvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-50753603436997151692019-05-15T08:31:54.571-07:002019-05-15T08:31:54.571-07:00Hi, Harvey! I would like to ask your permission to...Hi, Harvey! I would like to ask your permission to use your photo of Sheaffer student pens on my own blog, Wing's World (gretchenkwing.com). I'm currently in love with Pilot gel pens and want to write about them, but back in the late 70s I lived and died with Sheaffers just like the ones pictured, and I want to give them their due.Gretchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10561366091028513460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-29035111878291676672019-01-05T08:36:24.680-08:002019-01-05T08:36:24.680-08:00So glad to find this post! During high school in ...So glad to find this post! During high school in the early 1980's, I used my mom's mid 1960's vintage translucent aqua blue student pen every day, for all my note taking. In the subsequent college years, it went missing and I've always regretted the loss, but didn't know the make/model of the pen to launch a search. Well now I know, and have found a replacement on Ebay.....I'm about to own my treasure again! Thank you!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012662175231680585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-30846638702127586352018-08-23T02:07:59.061-07:002018-08-23T02:07:59.061-07:00Hello, an amazing Information dude. Thanks for sha...Hello, an amazing Information dude. Thanks for sharing this nice information with us. <a href="https://www.swopz.com/" rel="nofollow">Kids Birthday Gifts</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04799769332008918926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-42685369868872977172018-05-09T07:48:57.725-07:002018-05-09T07:48:57.725-07:00Kimo,
Thanks for your comments. I'm always in...Kimo,<br /><br />Thanks for your comments. I'm always interested in hearing about other peoples experiences with fountain pens, especially those that I've also used. <br /><br />I guess ink stains on fingers and clothes are, unfortunately, a possibility with fountain pens. I suppose that is why ink cartridges were invented: they are an attempt do avoid the stains made from filling the pens.<br /><br />As I said in my post, there are advantages to refilling the cartridges from bottled ink using a syringe or even turning the Sheaffer Student Pen into eye dropper pen. Your report on the more intense color of ink from using an older cartridge is interesting. I assume that due to evaporation, the pigment left is more concentrated and hence the color is more intense. I wonder if we can get the same result by pouring a small amount of bottled ink into a container and letting it sit out for a few days. some of the water in the ink would evaporate leaving behind a more intense color. They you could fill the cartridge with this ink using a syringe. It might be an interesting experiment!Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-48506454515046374432018-05-08T12:20:21.280-07:002018-05-08T12:20:21.280-07:00I always liked these as a kid. I was pretty rough ...I always liked these as a kid. I was pretty rough on them. Part of the reason I liked them was the tranparent barrel. I also tend toward fountain pens as I have a prediliction for green and green ball-point ink always looks pretty poor. The newer rollerball inks are much better, but I still like the feel of a good fountain pen. Unfortunately I'm pretty tough on the nibs. I saw someone mentioned the intermidate conical style already (between the cigar and square ones. I might have some of all three; not as sure about the cigar style as I'm about 10–15 years behind you. I did not notice anyone mention that they actually made some with fine nibs. I just found one that looked unused. Popped in my favorite washable green cartridge, and, despite the fact that the cartridge looks like the ink has lost some liquid (it's only about 1/3 full, as are all of mine now), it writes fine. Much better color (for me) than the washable green Scheaffer bottled ink, unfortunately.<br />I also recall (other than its fragility in my hands back then; I know it's not really that fragile as fountain pens go) that my biggest gripe wa the cartridges tended to run out really fast. I did start refilling at some point, but that's pretty messy. And I remember having many stained pockets, either from leaking or forgetting to put the cap on…still have issues today with stained fingers on modern pens, especially after refilling.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14233826324878246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-47378739555698619052017-06-23T07:51:11.602-07:002017-06-23T07:51:11.602-07:00I haven't checked eBay for these pens in a few...I haven't checked eBay for these pens in a few years so I didn't realize they had become expensive. These pens write surprisingly well considering how inexpensive they were when manufactured. I'm glad you also has success in using bottled ink. That really increases your color choices.Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-26993253741770304422017-06-23T07:42:06.109-07:002017-06-23T07:42:06.109-07:00That's awful!! I'm glad you survived and a...That's awful!! I'm glad you survived and are still interested in fountain pens. Harvey Levinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164147681970011008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-23445286202223951402017-06-20T22:58:19.439-07:002017-06-20T22:58:19.439-07:00My mother would have made me clean it.My mother would have made me clean it.Davjohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07144090571382568140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-73579447171005588852017-06-20T22:57:44.371-07:002017-06-20T22:57:44.371-07:00I bought about 100 S.I.C. (Standard International ...I bought about 100 S.I.C. (Standard International Cartridges) in 9 different colors and 25 large Jinhao cartridges which fit the school pens. I have both the cigar shaped pen, and the one with the more straight barrel with the conical point at the ends. Both will take the S.I.C., and you're right, they can be refilled. Last year, for my birthday, a friend gave me 6 sample bottles of ink and a Pilot Metropolitan. The samples of ink were intended for the Metro, but I refilled the bottles with the other ink, and then used that in my Sheaffer Student/School pens. Happy Me! Those pens are the greatest writers. I just wish they weren't so popular. All of these pens have been scarfed up and even on ebay they are expensive.Davjohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07144090571382568140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016591644129816875.post-63589550426940119982017-06-16T15:10:29.021-07:002017-06-16T15:10:29.021-07:00My closest brush with death was due to a Sheaffer ...My closest brush with death was due to a Sheaffer Student Cartridge pen. For some reason, after coming home from school, I sat in the spare room watching TV and had a string looped under the clip of my pen. I started twirling it around in boredom. I looked up to find the entire room (with a popcorn ceiling, no less) covered in small blue ink drops. My mother spent probably 10 hours, sometimes on a ladder, to clean the ink off of the white walls and ceiling. I'm still amazed she didn't strangle me.Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06741092811012405089noreply@blogger.com